PanoTools:
Re: John's Request
Bert Vierstra 2006-Jun-06 03:06:13
On 6/6/06, John Spikowski <#removed#> wrote:
>
> > And I write to John:
> >
>
> My only point was that if you create a site for PanoTools then the site
> should belong to the group. If you must have absolute control then thanks
> anyways.
>
Yeah. My point is that YOU have absolute control, so NO thanks anyway.
>
> > You were forced to finally make the list really email address
> > free, after I deleted my part.
> >
>
> I'm not a Python programmer and I haven't done Mailman mods before. I
> listened to you and took the Archives off line till I got it right. I need
> to be able to work with the webmaster of PanoTools to integrate other
> 'canned' packages we use. (Mediawiki, Mailman, ...)
>
Not true. You tried to force links on me, while the list was still
sensitive to spammers robots.
> This silly poll you started as a part of regaining your reign
> > of panotools will not be seen by many as the start of a
> > manipulation process, but it is.
> >
> > Why don't you start a poll, if the management of the domain
> > and this list should be democratized, and write out elections?
> >
>
> From your last post:
>
> "I hope we can turn this thing in a democracy soon, one or the other way."
>
> I take your suggestion again (democratic poll) and now it's stupid.
>
Yes it is. Its part of you making it look like you have become democratic.
Democratic would be if the management of the domain and list would be
democratic.
Democratic would be decision if there should be a poll, made by elected
members.
>
> I tried to post a couple replies to your website news articles and you
> rejected them as not good enough to pass your standards so I gave up
> submitting. Doesn't look like anyone else had any luck either.
>
Lies, and trying to make me look bad.
I think I'll put a Mambo/Joomla CMS on the site so the members have some say
> what content makes up the site.
>
Maybe you should ask the members first what they want.
Do you really think the 2000+ members of the list really needed to hear
> about your dissatisfaction with the PanoTools group and how it's managed?
>
Yes.
I know you don't like to hear it, not in our private conversations during my
involvement, neither from other (plenty of) dissatisfied members and you
want to "move forward"
What are your objections to a democratic management of the site and list
???????
Bert
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