PanoTools:
RE: Re: resource future - some support for John
John Spikowski 2005-Mar-17 06:30:06
> --- In #removed#, "brian_raines_md" <#removed#>
> wrote:
>
> > I PERSONALLY think John is on the right track to move the list away
> > from Yahoo and to a stand alone website -- look at the success of
> > sites like dpreview.com and sitepoint.com (granted - they do not
> > follow a wiki format). Both have a heavy forum user base and a
> > sense of community that also allows the site owners to realize a
> > profit based on advertising, sales and the business that comes
> their
> > way while at the same time allows users to benefit through the
> > sharing of ideas -- I know my photography is much better because of
> > dpreview.com and I KNOW my web business is much better off because
> > of sitepoint.com and phpbuilder.com. I have personally seen this
> > scenario succeed in my own business where a "sandbox/passion"
> > website has grown to incredible proportions and now is a self
> > sustaining enterprise through the revenue it generates and the
> > business it brings my way.
>
> This is fine with me, but only if done in such a way as to ATTRACT
> people to the new web site, not by forcing them from their present
> home. I would be comfortable with the change if done in this way:
> John turns over the reins of this group to others, continues to
> develop his site, and invites everyone to join him. That way each
> would be free to choose the present group or move to the new web site.
> It would allow a sort of community-wide vote, since people would vote
> with their presence at the new site or at the old Yahoo group. The
> change could take place gradually and naturally.
>
> --John
Were we not evicted from our last home? If I remember correctly everybody
was pretty happy with how smooth the transition went to Yahoo Groups. (I got
a bunch of e-mail while setting up Yahoo Groups asking why I'm creating a
duplicate list.) I have keep the spammers at bay which isn't a easy task
when your never sure what the true intentions are of the new member. I have
been consistent, open and honest with everyone (like it or not) and tried to
use whatever visionary skills I was born with to anticipate the changing
landscape of this group. With 3-5 members joining the group per day, the
problems associated with Yahoo Groups and maintaining status quo have become
increasingly more difficult.
I have tried to get the members of this group to ban together on projects
but the enthusiasm usually dies off in a day or two. Try to put yourself in
my shoes and pretend this is a company that is trying to gain market share
and every decision must be voted on or discussed. Add the fact the members
are scattered all over the world and visit the group at will. I have decided
to forge onward and the worse case is we may loose a few members but the end
result will be a stronger PanoTools.
I count on donations to keep this project going which allows me to spend
more time on PanoTools site development. Everyone is welcome weather your
just a lurker or an avid member. It's the members of PanoTools and the
content they provide that attracts new members to the group not my
development efforts.
John
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