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Date/Time:2004-Nov-12 18:38:06
Subject:Re: entrance pupil - nodal point

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PanoTools: Re: entrance pupil - nodal point Erik Krause 2004-Nov-12 18:38:06
On 11 Nov 2004 at 22:11, Dan Slater wrote:

> The nodal points are unrelated to the entrance pupil. A good definition 
> was posted by John Houghton and is quoted here""
> 
> My Higher Physics text book says: "In any thick lens or system of 
> lenses there are two points, called nodal points, such that a ray 
> incident toward one nodal point will emerge as from the other nodal 
> point in a direction parallel to the original direction".
> 
> In diagramatic terms: 
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.houghton/nodal_pt.gif

Ok, many things are much clearer now, many thanks. There is one thing 
I still don't understand. Given the above definition is true (it 
should be since it is exactly what I know from school ;-). Given an 
object A and B located exactly one after the other on the optical 
axis. The image of both will be on the optical axis, too. Now I 
rotate around a point on the optical axis, but different from the 
above defined nodal point. 

A light ray from A will go through the nodal point and hit the film 
in point A'. If the point of rotation and the nodal point are 
different, a light ray from B that goes through the nodal point will 
have a slightly different angle and emerge from the rear nodal point 
with that same angle (according to the above definition) and therefor 
create a point B' on the film that is not identical with A'.

For my limited knowledge of geometry this means that the nodal point 
and the rotational point have to be the same to avoid parallaxe. 

I think it is legitimate to look at the central rays only, since 
parallaxe is a problem inside depth of field only. The blurred speck 
of a point detail is a projection of the effective aperture shape and 
might be oval or cut off at one side due to vignetting. This might 
look as if it shifts slightly in position, if rotated from one side 
of the image field to the other because the cut off changes sides.

This is exactly what the definition of 'entrance pupil' on 
http://www.mellesgriot.com/products/machinevision/lef_4.htm
says. In my opinion the definition as "virtual image of the aperture" 
is a bit vague and misleading since it not only implies a viewer that 
looks from infinity (or a collimator) and depends on the exact 
location of the physical aperture.

However, the thick lens model mentioned there and the above 
definition of nodal point are valid only for rectilinear lenses 
without distortion. A fishey projects 180° field of view in object 
space to a far lower angle in image space. Otherwise it would not be 
possible to map 180° on flat film.

best regads


-- 
Erik Krause
Ressources, not only for panorama creation:
http://www.erik-krause.de/



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