PanoTools NG:
Re: Chilling effect on archiva, was DMCA...
Yuval Levy 2007-Jun-16 20:10:51
Daniel,
dmgalpha wrote:
> Yuv (although this message is for the board),
this board has set a separate list to discuss governance issue, the
discussion should continue there:
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Panotools-List/>
However, since that list is limited only to those subscribed and since
you make statements here about me that I feel are incorrect and
incomplete, I will answer them in the place where they were uttered.
> Trying to enforce copyright on somebody who has gathered postings
> and perhaps organize them to make them accessible sets a bad
> precedent (He is using the original messages, crediting you, not
> creating a derivative without crediting you).
Interesting that this is coming from you - the guy who has enforced his
copyright on the code in the panotools library. What was the motivation
again to retire your copyrighted code from the pano12.dll?
The specific target of my DMCA is using my messages out of context. This
is even worse than a derivative without credits.
> THe biggest issue with this is that you are saying: "I don't want
> anybody to archive" my messages".
NO. What I am saying is very different. What I am saying is "I don't
want anybody to abuse my text", and it is the same as you saying "I
don't want anybody to abuse my code".
I respect your intellectual property. I respect your code. This is why
when I use PTgui I use it with the old libpano prior to your
contribution, and I use your code exactly as you request in your license.
<http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20070123211605....>
Your code is governed by GPL. My text is governed by
<http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/utos-173.html> and I expect
usage of my text to respect my intellectual property.
I am in favor of archives if they respect
<http://wiki.panotools.org/User_Guidelines> which is the result of a
collective process. I have not issued DMCA against any other archive out
there because those other archives are respectful of my intellectual
property and of me as an author.
> The list should be open about reuse of its information.
re-use yes. abuse no.
> ANd perhaps
> should change its terms-of-use to force a Creative Commons license
> that guarantees that the content will not die the day the list
> dies.
this has already been collectively discussed on
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Panotools-List/> and the result is
<http://wiki.panotools.org/User_Guidelines>
If you have a feeling that <http://wiki.panotools.org/User_Guidelines>
can be improved (there is always room for improvement), feel free to
comment to the appropriate forum.
> It is kind of ironic that mailing list that was created to support
> software licensed under the GPL (which allows anybody to copy
> the software as long as they allow anybody else to copy it itself,
> among other things) is trying to close its information from
> being disseminated.
It is kind of ironic that the coder who insists so much on respect of
his intellectual property is willing to consider a different standard of
proection for others intellectual property.
Yuv
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