PanoTools:
Re: Change or No-Change.
anodyssey 2006-Jun-07 16:00:28
Oh the irony of the Bert-Yuval new list. When I tried posting the following reply to thier
message, it seems dissent is not allowed on thier list. My post went to Bert and never gets
relayed. Here is what I said:
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This is exactly the type of behaviour why I put Bert on a 30 day no post suspension on the
Panotools list. Not because of the activity but because of the fact twisting inflamatory
posts. For example, take a look at the post below. At what point did any of the change
opponents term the choices 'the bathroom option' and the 'dictators option'. These are
inflamatory terms apparently of Bert's choosing.
Here are the original questions posted by Yuval as those who voted early on recognize:
a democracy with a team of admins elected by the community for a time-limited,
renewable mandate?
a dictatorship where Kevin, John or another dictator can ban people and topics as he
pleases without consulting the listmembers?
Heck yes. Who wouldn't want a democracy versus a dictatorship but are Bert and Yuval the
sort of management you want running a public list?
Kevin
--- In #removed#, "Bert Vierstra" <vierstra@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Listmembers,
>
> There is an important poll over the future of the list going on.
> It is important that you give your opinion!
>
> There are two options:
>
> Change or No-Change.
>
> If you vote for change (the bathroom option, as opponents call it),
> a transitional team will take over the list and submit to your
> judgement a new charter for the list which you will be invited to
> vote upon.
>
> If you vote for no change (the dictators option, as opponents call
> it), those who have started and supported the insurgency will withdraw
> and accept the status quo. It is important that you vote either
> way because it is important for the community that it's leadership,
> elected or other, has a strong mandate to represent your interest
> and insure the long term viability and survival of the list.
>
> Please vote !
>
> Some back-ground information:
>
> Dissatisfaction with the current owner has been a returning issue on
> the list. In the last weeks there again have been discussions about the
> way the list and associated projects are managed.
>
> A group of concerned people wants to democratise ownership and policies,
> and give back the group (and asssociated projects) to who it belongs, you.
>
> You are invited to join discussions about this here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Panotools-List/
>
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