PanoTools:
Re: Re: Change or No-Change.
Gary Udstrand 2006-Jun-07 17:25:34
Am I missing something? I thought this topic was off limits? Are you
going to ban yourself for 30 days?
-Gary
anodyssey said the following on 6/7/2006 9:00 AM:
> Oh the irony of the Bert-Yuval new list. When I tried posting the following reply to thier
> message, it seems dissent is not allowed on thier list. My post went to Bert and never gets
> relayed. Here is what I said:
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> This is exactly the type of behaviour why I put Bert on a 30 day no post suspension on the
> Panotools list. Not because of the activity but because of the fact twisting inflamatory
> posts. For example, take a look at the post below. At what point did any of the change
> opponents term the choices 'the bathroom option' and the 'dictators option'. These are
> inflamatory terms apparently of Bert's choosing.
>
> Here are the original questions posted by Yuval as those who voted early on recognize:
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> a democracy with a team of admins elected by the community for a time-limited,
> renewable mandate?
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> a dictatorship where Kevin, John or another dictator can ban people and topics as he
> pleases without consulting the listmembers?
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> Heck yes. Who wouldn't want a democracy versus a dictatorship but are Bert and Yuval the
> sort of management you want running a public list?
>
> Kevin
>
> --- In #removed#, "Bert Vierstra" <vierstra@...> wrote:
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>> Dear Listmembers,
>>
>> There is an important poll over the future of the list going on.
>> It is important that you give your opinion!
>>
>> There are two options:
>>
>> Change or No-Change.
>>
>> If you vote for change (the bathroom option, as opponents call it),
>> a transitional team will take over the list and submit to your
>> judgement a new charter for the list which you will be invited to
>> vote upon.
>>
>> If you vote for no change (the dictators option, as opponents call
>> it), those who have started and supported the insurgency will withdraw
>> and accept the status quo. It is important that you vote either
>> way because it is important for the community that it's leadership,
>> elected or other, has a strong mandate to represent your interest
>> and insure the long term viability and survival of the list.
>>
>> Please vote !
>>
>> Some back-ground information:
>>
>> Dissatisfaction with the current owner has been a returning issue on
>> the list. In the last weeks there again have been discussions about the
>> way the list and associated projects are managed.
>>
>> A group of concerned people wants to democratise ownership and policies,
>> and give back the group (and asssociated projects) to who it belongs, you.
>>
>> You are invited to join discussions about this here:
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Panotools-List/
>>
>>
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