PanoTools:
Re: Re: Change or No-Change.
Oscar Adan 2006-Jun-07 17:37:46
I don't write so much to this list, mainly because I'm always out of
time, but I enjoy a lot being here everyday.
Just only one request: Stop this thing off. The whole thing is
getting worse. Some guys want a lists on THIS list, I think is OK,
but, please, don't share the thoughts and actions on THIS LIST in
THIS LIST.
Some days ago I thought: "Can this thing get even worse?".
The anwser is yes, for sure. You know, nobody expects the Spanish
Inquisition...
Oscar
El 07/06/2006, a las 16:56, Steven Dowd escribió:
> Kevin,
>
> Your post, was an email it seems directly to Bert, not to the
> Panotools-List
> itself,
>
> Even so, It was immediately relayed to the whole list by Bert..
> which is
> what you would have wanted..
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Panotools-List/message/93?l=1
>
> I believe that Bert may be temporarily banned from the [Panotools]
> list by
> yourself, so I have posted this link as he cannot defend himself
> against
> your claim.
>
> It was relayed..
>
> Steven
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "anodyssey" <#removed#>
> To: <#removed#>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: [PanoTools] Re: Change or No-Change.
>
>
> Oh the irony of the Bert-Yuval new list. When I tried posting the
> following
> reply to thier
> message, it seems dissent is not allowed on thier list. My post
> went to
> Bert and never gets
> relayed. Here is what I said:
>
> ================
> This is exactly the type of behaviour why I put Bert on a 30 day no
> post
> suspension on the
> Panotools list. Not because of the activity but because of the fact
> twisting inflamatory
> posts. For example, take a look at the post below. At what point
> did any
> of the change
> opponents term the choices 'the bathroom option' and the 'dictators
> option'.
> These are
> inflamatory terms apparently of Bert's choosing.
>
> Here are the original questions posted by Yuval as those who voted
> early on
> recognize:
>
> a democracy with a team of admins elected by the community for a
> time-limited,
> renewable mandate?
>
> a dictatorship where Kevin, John or another dictator can ban people
> and
> topics as he
> pleases without consulting the listmembers?
>
> Heck yes. Who wouldn't want a democracy versus a dictatorship but
> are Bert
> and Yuval the
> sort of management you want running a public list?
>
> Kevin
>
> --- In #removed#, "Bert Vierstra"
> <vierstra@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Listmembers,
>>
>> There is an important poll over the future of the list going on.
>> It is important that you give your opinion!
>>
>> There are two options:
>>
>> Change or No-Change.
>>
>> If you vote for change (the bathroom option, as opponents call it),
>> a transitional team will take over the list and submit to your
>> judgement a new charter for the list which you will be invited to
>> vote upon.
>>
>> If you vote for no change (the dictators option, as opponents call
>> it), those who have started and supported the insurgency will
>> withdraw
>> and accept the status quo. It is important that you vote either
>> way because it is important for the community that it's leadership,
>> elected or other, has a strong mandate to represent your interest
>> and insure the long term viability and survival of the list.
>>
>> Please vote !
>>
>> Some back-ground information:
>>
>> Dissatisfaction with the current owner has been a returning issue on
>> the list. In the last weeks there again have been discussions
>> about the
>> way the list and associated projects are managed.
>>
>> A group of concerned people wants to democratise ownership and
>> policies,
>> and give back the group (and asssociated projects) to who it
>> belongs, you.
>>
>> You are invited to join discussions about this here:
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Panotools-List/
>>
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