PanoTools NG:
Re: AW: new 360cities pano interface, was Re: Opera is annoying was: Re: "From a tower, without the tower"
Ken Warner 2009-Jan-07 14:06:27
I've put a Help button up in the right hand corner of my
viewer and it can be turned ON/OFF by pressing 'H' key.
I probably should also use the question mark key '?'
pancyl.com
ptgroup wrote:
> Good idea.
> Why not a "Help"- button, discret somwhere in a corner ?
> Content from the "Global" settings of every photographer ?
>
> Also: the "Global" settings of a photographer could set the hotspots on/off
> by default.
> Additionally: every image setting could override these in possible
> individual setting.
> So everybody can just set hotspots very individually.
> ciao
> mike
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> Auftrag von Ken Warner
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2009 13:32
> An: #removed#
> Betreff: Re: [PanoToolsNG] new 360cities pano interface, was Re: Opera is
> annoying was: Re: "From a tower, without the tower"
>
>
> Ok, well, here's another penny's worth.
>
> A pano can be displayed without any visible controls and the
> user -- if experienced -- can navigate around and through the
> pano with just mouse clicks and key presses and not need to
> click a particular, visible control.
>
> But it really would help to have a standard set of gestures and
> actions that support pano navigation. Such a standard is emerginent.
> That is, there is a common set of mouse motions and key clicks
> that we all are sort of centering on.
>
> We click/drag the mouse the direction we want our view to move --
> which is sort of opposite to the way a text editor works. In a
> text editor the page moves with the mouse. Pano viewers have
> a unique convention. Similarly, the use of SHIFT/CNTL/MOUSEWHEEL
> to zoom. The direction or arrow keys have similar functions.
>
> Now one gesture that is less familiar is how to turn hotspots ON/OFF.
> I've used the space bar to toggle hotspots. I think other viewers
> have also. I use F1/ESC to enter/exit fullscreen mode. I think
> other viewers have also done this.
>
> Pano viewers will eventually center on one common set of gestures
> and actions for control of the viewing experience.
>
> And as panos become more embedded in the common vernacular of web
> use, these conventions will become more established and familiar
> to more people. So eventually the idea of having visible controls
> will become redundant and unnecessary because "everybody" will know
> how to view a pano.
>
> And we will figure out how to introduce the newbie to pano viewing.
> Maybe a popup that appears after so many seconds of inactivity on
> the part of the viewer -- I don't know.
>
> But eventually, a convention will be established. This debate is
> part of the process of establishing that convention.
>
> Keith Martin wrote:
> > Sometime around 7/1/09 (at 11:14 +0100) Jeffrey Martin said:
> >
> >
> >>the VR world has to move past the "single
> >>fullscreen image with no options" of 5 years ago.
> >
> >
> > The absence of visible hotspots and other controls may well SEEM
> > old-fashioned, but this is a perfectly legitimate approach to pano
> > display. As is having everything visible, of course! I don't regard
> > the absence of visible controls as dated, just more traditional.
> >
> > This is more of an aesthetic choice that is governed in part by the
> > publisher's goal for the panos and the site. Most of the time when I
> > show panos I intend them to be seen as single views with as few
> > distractions as possible. However, the norm for a tour-oriented
> > approach would - logically enough - have helpful buttons and other
> > items on display.
> >
> > It is particularly important to note the terminology I just used:
> > "distractions" and "helpful items" can refer to exactly the same
> > thing, the only difference being the publisher's intent for the
> > panoramas.
> >
> > ...Okay, also the end user's perception. But when someone wants to
> > take a virtual tour they probably won't want to hunt for controls,
> > whereas when they want to look at a single pano at a time, not as
> > part of a spatially connected set, they probably won't want to have
> > controls covering any part of the image.
> >
> > Thus, if the visitor's perception of the site and how they want to
> > use it is the same as the publisher's, their preference for seeing or
> > not seeing controls will probably be aligned.
> >
> > So no, the world doesn't have to move on - we just need to recognise
> > that there are aesthetic requirements to consider.
> >
> > Having said all this, I do feel, personally, that the arrows are a
> > little more obtrusive than I'd like. But defaulting to having them
> > hidden would probably mean many people won't ever see them or take a
> > virtual tour through a city.
> >
> > Would it be possible to have them much fainter initially but bring
> > them up to their current opacity level after a certain length of time
> > (such as 2 seconds) with no user interaction?
> >
> > k
> >
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