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Sender:Ken Warner
Date/Time:2009-Jan-12 03:21:06
Subject:Re: new 360cities pano interface, was Re: Opera is annoying was: Re: "From a tower, without the tower"

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PanoTools NG: Re: new 360cities pano interface, was Re: Opera is annoying was: Re: "From a tower, without the tower" Ken Warner 2009-Jan-12 03:21:06
Assumptions... What would we do without our preconceived, groundless
assumptions?

http://pancyl.com/ShadyRest.htm

No controllers.  No maps.  No be-nice-to-the-newbie.  Just a Help button
that -- if you take time to read the Help page -- can be turned off.

Really, I couldn't be happier....



Pat Swovelin wrote:
> On 1/11/2009 5:27 PM, Ken Warner's hamster got loose on the keyboard and 
> typed ...:
> 
>>That would be nice -- the first time you saw it.
>>How would it be to have to look at that *EVERY* time
>>you looked at *ANY* pano.
>>
>>Do you think you would get as enraged as I would get?
> 
> 
> Apparently 1 click is too much for you so please continue to hide all of 
> your work with controllers and maps.  Then use autorotation to turn it 
> into a movie so people won't interact with it.
> 
> I'm sure you'll be happier.
> 
> Meanwhile the rest of us can have a thoughtful conversation about it 
> without being enraged when someone voices an opinion.
> 
> 
>>I mean how many panos do you have to look at before you get
>>the idea of moving your view with the mouse? Once? Twice if
>>you are really stupid. Maybe 10 or 20 times if your name starts
>>B and ends with ush. But would a person that dumb really want
>>to look at a pano? He'd probably look behind the monitor to see if
>>he could see the whole thing at once.
>>
>>The question is how does a newbie -- a first timer -- get the message
>>to click and drag the mouse and then never have to see that message
>>again? I'm thinking cookies and a standard JavaScript...
>>
>>Uri Cogan wrote:
>>
>>>Pat Swovelin is rumoured to have written:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Controllers and everything else (*including* autorotation, because to
>>>>the average site visitor it becomes a movie and they simply sit there
>>>>and watch it rendering the pano's interactivity pointless) should be
>>>>turned off by default. There should be an information image centered in
>>>>the pano (that's closed with a single-click) that tells the site visitor
>>>>how to manipulate the panorama with a mouse and directs them to the
>>>>collapsed controller in the bottom-left corner with, if necessary, a
>>>>collapsed map in the top-left corner.
>>>>
>>
>>>Yes!
>>>
>>>How about some of the resident designer/wizards creating some such
>>>customizable, or even animated "information images"? I keep imagining a
>>>little animated "hand" clicking a "mouse" and demonstrating how to move
>>>a little "panorama". No words, just plain, clean symbols that could
>>>hopefully be understood by almost anyone.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pat Swovelin
> Cool Guy @ Large
> 

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